Grant L. Nelson, appellant, filed a voluntary petition for bankruptcy on April 30, 1974. He listed debts of $40,563.00 and assets of $23,700.00, which were claimed to be exempt. He was adjudicated bankrupt on May 16, 1974. ■ He had been borrowing money from appellee, California State Employees’ Credit Union No. 6, over a period of some three years, starting in March, 1971. He listed a $5,000.00 debt to appel- lee as an “unsecured debt without priority,” in his bankruptcy schedule.

To the statement of facts in Note 1, we should add that the bankruptcy judge found the debt non-dischargeable under Section 17(a)(2) of the Bankruptcy Act, 11 U.S.C.A. § 35 (a)(2); and judgment was rendered on the promissory note held by appellee in the sum of $5,003.11, and costs of $70.00 (C.T. 70-72), plus interest against appellant.

Appellant then appealed to the district court. The district judge ordered the matter remanded to the bankruptcy judge for further proceedings relating to appellee’s reliance as that aspect might be affected by the currency of information contained in a credit report received by appellee in light of the “No Other Debts” statement. The bankruptcy judge, after hearing testimony found and held as follows:

Appellant again appealed to the district judge. After a hearing and briefing, the district court affirmed the judgment and order of the bankruptcy judge. (C.T. 154).

An appeal was then filed with this Court. We have jurisdiction ( 11 U.S.C.A. § 47 (a)).

The nature of appellant’s defense to the “Application to Determine Dischargeability of a Debt, etc.,” appears in his own words in the record before us:

■ Teran Grunberg testified relative to the appellant’s signature to his application as follows:

Appellant raises three issues on this appeal:

(1) Was the finding by both judges of reliance by the Credit Union clearly erroneous?

(2) Was the finding by both judges of appellant’s intent to deceive clearly erroneous?

(3) Did the bankruptcy judge apply the proper measure of damages?

The conversation which took place between appellant and appellee’s clerk Grun-berg when appellant listed one debt on his application dated November 27, 1973 is in serious dispute. The bankruptcy judge believed witness Grunberg and not appellant, and so stated. (R.T. I, p. 82, lines 8-13; R.T. II, p. 48, lines 16-24). Prom the testimony of Grunberg, Garness and McClelland (the one credit committee member who recollected granting approval of the loan), and from the testimony and explanations of the appellant himself, there was substantial evidence to support the three findings of the two judges that the Credit Union’s reliance on appellant’s written representation was not clearly erroneous. (See R.T. I, 67-69).

The leading case in this Circuit, interpreting § 17(a) of the Bankruptcy Act is In re Taylor, 514 F.2d 1370 (9th Cir. 1975). At page 1373, this Court stated that the burden is on the party challenging the discharge to prove actual or positive fraud. There are five basic elements to be proven by the objecting party in order to obtain an adjudication of non-dischargeability:

Here, the evidence shows, and the Court found, that the debtor made the representations he had no other debts but “Sears” on November 27, 1973, excluding minor current bills, such as utilities, etc; that he knew this was false (R.T. 56, lines 14-17; C.T. p. 67, Finding 7; C.T. p. 68, Finding 9); that he owed at least $5,000.00 to creditors other than Sears (C.T. p. 67, Finding 8); that the creditor relied on such representations (C.T. p. 68, Findings 10, 12, and 13); and that the defendant’s false statement was made with intent to deceive. (Conclusions of Law, C.T. 69).

Appellant urges that the Court’s Finding No. 13 (C.T. 68) is improper because of the use of the phrase: “and he (defendant) is deemed to have intended that result,” i. e., that his false statement in the application would mislead or deceive the Credit Union. We cannot agree.

First, Finding of Fact No. 13 does not stand for a legal presumption but rather for a factual one. It merely asserts the proposition that because it can be shown that the defendant knew (or should have known) that his failure to disclose delinquent debts would make the financial state ment materially false and that the false statement would mislead and deceive the plaintiff into making a loan, the defendant will be found to have intended that result (the deception). That proposition is logical and comports with the current law on the subject. See 1A Collier on Bankruptcy 117.16 at 1631-1642; Abbott v. Regents of University of California, 516 F.2d 830, 831 (9th Cir. 1975) wherein it is stated:

Second, in the Taylor case, the appellee-debtor failed to list certain outstanding debts on a loan application form. There was a significant factual dispute as to what the appellee had been told to include on the form by the appellant-creditor’s agent. After an evidentiary hearing, the referee found that the evidence did not sustain the appellant’s burden of proving that the ap-pellee intended to deceive the appellant. It was specifically noted that the appellant’s representative did not deny telling the ap-pellee that he did not have to list certain of the debts. This Court held that:

Taylor, supra, 514 F.2d at 1373 . (Duniway, J., dissenting). It is clear that Taylor does not stand for the proposition that given a set of similar facts, a referee could not find the requisite intent to deceive if he did not believe the debtor’s explanation for his failure to include his prior debts on the loan form. Rather, the majority opinion in Taylor found the failure to list prior debts to be but one factor to be used in determining intent. As the Court noted: “The question of intent to deceive is particularly one of fact, and so the bankrupt’s credibility is an important factor. . . . Here, the referee’s findings must be accorded great weight because he had an opportunity to hear and observe the demeanor of the bankrupt and the other witnesses. [Footnotes and citations omitted].” Id. at 1373-1374 . And so must we in the circumstances of this case.

Here, the referee reached the opposite conclusion than the one reached by the referee in Taylor on the issue of the evidence of intent. We again point out and emphasize that the bankruptcy judge specifically found that: (1) the appellant knew and was aware of his debts (Finding of Fact No. 9), (2) the appellant did not give the Credit Union any cause or reason to suspect that he was being untruthful or that his application was not complete and correct (Finding of Fact No. 10), (3) the appellant knew or should have known that the loan form was false and would deceive the creditor (Finding of Fact No. 13). Given the above factual findings, the further conclusion that the debtor had an intent to deceive was practically inevitable. In addition, in the present case unlike the debtor in Taylor who was merely silent on the existence of prior debts, the appellant here affirmatively stated on the loan form that there was “No other debts.” That false and deliberate statement on the loan application was sufficient for the referee to base his finding of an intent to deceive when the referee did not find credible the debtor’s explanation for the misrepresentation.

The case of Wright v. Lubinko, 515 F.2d 260 (9th Cir. 1975), also cited by appellant, is not helpful to the appellant’s cause as the factual finding there was that the debtor had no fraudulent intent although he did make certain false representations.

Third, in reviewing the bankruptcy judge’s finding of an intent to deceive, this Court is aware that it is a finding of fact relating to a subjective state of mind, one wherein the bankrupt’s credibility is an important factor. Taylor, supra, 514 F.2d at 1373. Moreover, this Court must employ the “clearly erroneous” standard of review. Abbott, supra, 516 F.2d at 831 ; Union Bank v. Blum, 460 F.2d 197, 200 (9th Cir. 1972). Given the facts herein and the “great weight” accorded to the referee’s determinations of credibility, Taylor, supra, 514 F.2d at 1373-1374 , we cannot say that the referee’s finding of an intent to deceive was “clearly erroneous” much less erroneous at all. Neither could the district court.

Thus, we find no merit in appellant’s first and second points of “no reliance,” and “no intent to deceive.”

There remains the claim that there was an improper measure of damages. The Credit Union argues, correctly, that the issue was not raised in a timely manner below. Indeed, the amount owed (the amount subject to the Credit Union’s claim of nondischargeability) was never disputed by Nelson in either the bankruptcy court or the district court. Therefore, the issue need not, and will not, be considered by this Court. “This theory is not properly before us and it also lacks merit.” Moore v. Great Western Savings and Loan Ass’n, 513 F.2d 688, 691 (1975). Error not raised below will ordinarily not be considered on appeal. Michael Regan Co., Inc. v. Lindell, 527 F.2d 653 at 659 (1975); Rothman v. Hosp. Service of Sou. Cal., 510 F.2d 956 at 960 (1975); Moore’s Federal Practice, Vol. 5A, ¶ 46.02, pp. 1902-1906.

The judgment of the district court is AFFIRMED.

. These applications for loans all relating to Account No. 9223 were as follows: Credit Applications for Note # Loan, Note dated Ex. # 3477 3/23/71 for $2,500, payments to begin 5/1/71 4 4243 7/8/71 for $4,141.15, payments to begin 8/1/71 5 6027 3/15/72 for $2,334.79, payments to begin 4/1/72 6 7385 8/10/72 for $2,363.90, payments to begin 9/1/72 7 8383 12/13/72 for $2,619, payments to begin 1/1/73 8* 9841 6/5/73 for $2,813.16, payments to begin 7/1/73 9 137 6/26/73 for $700, payments to begin 7/1/73 10 1292 11/30/73 for $5,334.64, payments to begin 1/1/74 1 & 2 * Erroneously referred to in the record (Tr. p. 43) as dated 12-13-73. In appellant’s first Credit Application (Ex. 4) dated March 16, 1971, appellant was asked to list “all (his) outstanding debts.” He did so, as follows: The first six lines of the above were in the handwriting of appellee’s secretary. At her request, and in his own printing, appellant had placed the words “No Other Debts” over his signature. His wife Caraleen was co-signer. On his second application, appellee’s secretary listed his debts when he borrowed from Credit Union No. 6, to buy a Datsun automobile. He again listed his debts and wrote “No Other Debts” opposite, and above, his signature (Ex. 5). No co-signer. On his third application, appellant listed his debts with the Credit Union’s secretary, and thereafter wrote “No Debts” above his signature (Ex. 6). No co-signer. On his fourth credit application (Ex. 7), appellant listed two debts: “H.F.C. $1,400 present balance, Sears $350 present balance”; and again wrote, over his signature “No Other Debts.” On his fifth credit application, appellant listed only his debts as $1,300 to H.F.C. and $300 to Sears (Ex. 8). On appellant’s sixth credit application, he again listed under “Debts and Credit References,” only his debts to H.F.C. (as $1,500) and Sears (as $600), and he printed over his signature “No Other Debts.” (Ex. 9). On appellant’s seventh credit application, he sought $700 for the purpose of “medical bills,” but purchased a Ford Pinto (Ex. 10). No debts were listed under “Debts and Credit References.” On appellant’s eighth credit application to appellee, he listed under “Debts and Credit References” only his debt to Sears ($400.00), and above his signature, he partially printed, and partially wrote “No Other Debts.” His wife was co-maker (Exs. 1 and 2). Appellant explained: Q. What about the statements of “No Other Debts”? Can you tell us about that? A. Well, they asked me to put in no debts. I am not sure I understand what the meaning of “List all outstanding debts below” means. I did what was asked of me. Q. They just said write “No other debts” here? A. (Affirmative nod) Q. And you did? A. That’s right. Q. And you did that knowing you owed seven or eight or ten other debts on this last loan? A. Yeah, but they also — there is some statement on there that says “We reserve the right to make a complete credit investigation.” In addition to telling them I knew — I had some that I couldn’t remember. I assumed their normal procedure would be if they’re going to make an investigation they would have found them if I couldn’t remember them, if it were of some concern to them, I can’t be responsible for their financial processes, I guess. If they wanted this stuff I would have made it available. R.T. Vol. I, p. 62, line 22 to p. 63, line 12, inclusive. During this three-year period preceding bankruptcy, appellant had various credit balances with appellee Credit Union. He also apparently sometimes paid off the balance of a previously existing loan with the proceeds from the new larger loan. On November 27, 1973, when appellant signed the application for the last loan from the appellee, as well as his note (Exs. 1 and 2)— which is the note herein sued upon — appellant owed the following sum of money, which were not listed on his November 27, 1973 loan application, but were listed as creditors in his bankruptcy petition four months later: Schedule A-3 Item 2 Katten-Marengo Govt. Emp. $ 306.28* Schedule A-3 Item 3 Fin. Corp. 2,405.55 * Schedule A-3 Item 4 Macy’s 290.24 * Schedule A-3 Item 7 Sears) ) 321.47) Listed on ) last appl. Schedule A-2 Item 2 Sears) 241.37) as $400.00 Schedule A-2 Item 9 Weinstock 117.88 Listed on 7/2/71 application Schedule A-2 Item 10 Univ. of Utah (Student loan) 1,502.91 * Schedule A-3 Item 11 First Security Bank 353.23 * Schedule A-3 Item 12 Bank of Calif. (Loan) 664.00 Listed on 7/2/71 application Schedule A-3 Item 13 Bank of Calif. (Master Charge) 393.66 Schedule A-3 Item 14 Beehive State Emp. Cr. Union 276.94 * Schedule A-2 Item 3 Associates 481.59 * (The debts owed by appellant and never disclosed on any application made by him to the Credit Union are marked by asterisks above. Several had existed for one, two or three years prior to bankruptcy.) (R.T. p. 46-54, C.T. 6 and 7). . Appellant has referred to two “pre-Taylor” dischargeability cases, neither one of which is applicable here on its facts, because each decision supports the district court’s approval of a bankruptcy judge’s (or referee’s) findings and conclusion of law, when not clearly erroneous. In In re Dolnick, 374 F.Supp. 84 (1974), unlike the instant case, the referee denied the dischargeability, and the district court felt required to follow that denial, when there was evidence to support that conclusion. In In re Knight, 421 F.Supp. 1387 (M.D.La. 1976), the District Court of Louisiana holds the burden of showing the bankruptcy referee’s findings to be clearly erroneous is a stringent one, and the district court must be left with a definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been committed. There the district court followed the referee’s conclusion that Knight has made an honest mistake — when he overstated his monthly take home pay, and had not listed a non-written $10,000 debt. The district judge commented that “the evidence adduced casts serious doubt on Knight’s explanation,” but that “As in other civil matters, a bankruptcy referee’s findings of fact are to be upheld unless they are clearly erroneous. The question of intent to deceive is particularly one of fact, and so the bankrupt’s credibility is an important factor”, quoting from In re Taylor, supra. Following that rule here, the district judge was left with no definite and firm conviction that the bankruptcy judge had committed a mistake, nor have we.