The action is to foreclose a mortgage executed by Buffandeau, deceased. With respect to the appellants (defendants Wise and Denigan), the allegation of the complaint is: “The defendants claim some right, title, interest, or estate in or to the said premises, subsequent however, to said mortgage and subject thereto.” To this appellants answered: “ Defendants admit

that they have an interest in said premises by way of mortgage from E. B. Buffandeau, dated the 18th day of April, 1877, to secure a promissory note,” etc. “And they further allege they have no information or belief sufficient to enable them to answer the allegation of the complaint, that the claims of the defendants are subsequent, however, to said mortgage to plaintiffs and subject thereto, and so deny that their mortgage is subsequent or subject to the mortgage of said plaintiffs.”

It is said by respondents that the portion of the answer above quoted raises no issue. It is urged, in the first place, the defendants could not base a denial that their interest, in the mortgaged premises, was subsequent and subject to the lien of plaintiffs’ mortgage, upon an alleged ignorance of the facts. It has been held, very often, that where the fact alleged is such as that its existence or non-existence must, from its nature, be *314 known to the opposing party, such party cannot be permitted to plead ignorance, or deny “upon information and belief.” In such cases the party alleging a matter as a fact is entitled to an explicit denial, or to an admission. (Humphreys v. McCall, 9 Cal. 62 ; Brown v. Scott, 25 Cal. 189 ; Richardson v. Wilton, 4 Sandf. 708 ; Sherman v. N. Y. Central Mills, 1 Abb. Pr. 188 ; Chapman v. Palmer, 12 How. Pr. 37 ; Fales v. Hicks, 12 How. Pr. 154 ; Hance v. Rumming, 2 Smith, E. D. 48; Kelcham v. Zerega, 1 Smith, E. D. 553.)

It is said by respondents, in the second place, that the answer is evasive; it is not an express denial of the fact alleged. It is insisted that the answer does not even deny knowledge of the verity or falsehood of the averment actually made, but sets up a supposititious averment, and then alleges defendants’ ignorance with respect to such averment; that, while the complaint alleges any right, or title, or interest, or estate, which defendants may have in the premises, to be subject or subordinate to plaintiffs’ lien, the answer only declares defendants to be ignorant of the truth of a pretended averment “that the claims of the defendants are subsequent,” etc.

Appellants, on the other hand, contend that the allegation of the complaint is insufficient to constitute a cause of action against them; that the allegation is, defendants “claim” some right, title, interest, or estate subsequent, etc.; that is to say, that defendants claim that such interest as they have is subsequent and subject to plaintiffs’ mortgage.

If the plaintiffs had objected to the form of the denial in the court below the defendants might have been compelled to admit or deny expressly the allegation that their interest (as mortgagees) was subsequent and subject to plaintiffs’ lien. The plaintiffs’ further objection to the answer, and the objection of appellants to the complaint, cannot be considered here. The answer is as broad as the complaint, and the complaint does not entirely fail to state a cause of action. Admitting that a complaint in foreclosure should allege that an asserted right of a third party in the mortgaged premises “is subsequent and subject to” plaintiffs’ lien, there is here an attempt to state the fact, which, if inartificial or imperfect, should have been specially objected to by demurrer or otherwise. The court below tried the *315 issue of priority, as to which both parties introduced evidence, found certain facts bearing upon such issue, and concluded, as matter of law, that the mortgage of defendants was subsequent and subject to the mortgage of plaintiffs. There is no bill of exceptions, and, so far as appears, there was no motion by either party for judgment upon the pleadings, nor was the attention of the court called, by any special objection or application, to defects in the complaint or answer. Under these circumstances the interests of justice cannot be subserved by giving effect to points first made in this court.

Treating the pleadings as presenting the issue—“Is the defendants’ mortgage subsequent and subject to plaintiffs’ lien?” — it remains to inquire whether the court found upon that issue.

The District Court, amongst other facts, found that the mortgage to plaintiffs was executed and delivered April 18, 1877, and recorded the same day; that the mortgage to appellants was made and delivered April 18, 1877, and recorded April 26, 1877, In other words, that themortgages were made and delivered on the same day, but plaintiffs’ mortgage was first recorded.

As “a conclusion of law” from these facts the court foimd plaintiffs’ mortgage as a lien upon the premises described in the complaint prior and superior to the lien of the mortgage^ of the defendants Wise and Denigan aforesaid.

It is urged by respondents, the fact that plaintiffs’ mortgage ivas first recorded creates the presumption that it was prior.

Even if the prior record of the plaintiffs’ mortgage created a presumption that their mortgage was first executed and delivered, such would not be a conclusive legal presumption, but a presumption which could be rebutted by satisfactory evidence. Hence the finding of the fact of previous record would not necessarily establish the plaintiffs’ priority. Since Coveny v. Hale, 49 Cal. 552 , it has not been doubted that “ findings ” must be either of the ultimate facts, or of such probative facts as will enable the court to declare that the ultimate facts “necessarily result therefrom.” The ultimate fact of priority of execution does not necessarily result from the finding of the prior registry of plaintiffs’ mortgage. The plaintiffs’ mortgage may have been first recorded and yet the appellants’ mortgage been first executed and delivered.

*316 Nevertheless, it would seem, that if the prior record of the mortgage created a presumption that it was executed and delivered before appellants’ mortgage, or if the prior record even tended to prove plaintiffs’ priority, the “conclusion of law” of the court below, “that plaintiffs’ lien was prior and superior to the lien of defendants’ mortgage,” might be treated as a finding of the ultimate fact of plaintiffs’ priority. Where, on the question of the ratification of a note, the findings embraced several facts tending to establish it, and then a conclusion from them that there had been a full ratification and confirmation, it was held, that such conclusion was the ultimate fact to be ascertained ; that it was none the less a finding of fact because it was stated as a conclusion. (Jones v. Clark, 42 Cal. 180 .) But unless the previous findings, in some degree, tend to prove the ultimate fact, it is manifest that the conclusion (as in this case) “ from the foregoing facts,” must be treated as what it purports to be—a conclusion of law from the facts previously recited.

Why should the fact that one of two instruments made on the same day was first recorded be considered to create any presumption that the instrument was executed and delivered at an earlier hour of the day than the other ? There is nothing in the nature of the mere fact of record which tends to prove the independent fact of prior execution and delivery. Nor is there any language in the statute which can be construed to make a prior record evidence of a prior execution. Sections 1213 and 1214 of the Civil Code read: —

’ “See. 1213. Every conveyance of real property, acknowledged or proved, and certified and recorded as prescribed by law, from the time it is filed with the recorder for record, is constructive notice of the contents thereof to subsequent purchasers and mortgagees.

“Section 1214. Every conveyance of real property other than a lease for a term not exceeding one year is void as against any subsequent purchaser or mortgagee of the same property, or any part thereof, in good faith and for a valuable consideration, whose conveyance is first duly recorded.”

Section 1213 declares that the filing for record of a conveyance, with the recorder, shall be constructive notice of its contents to “ subsequent purchasers and mortgagees,” And 1214, that a *317 conveyance, not- recorded, shall be void “ as against any subsequent purchaser, or mortgagee, .... in good faith and for a valuable consideration, whose conveyance is first duly recorded.”

So far as the date of the execution of an instrument is concerned, the record of it, or a certified copy of its record, creates no other presumption than the production of the original would create, the presumption that it was made when it purports to have been made.

In the case before us, both mortgages were recorded on different days, both purport to have been made on the same day, and the court below found both were in fact executed and delivered on the same day. In the absence of a finding with respect to priority of delivery, we might presume, perhaps, the delivery of the two to have been contemporaneous. We certainly cannot presume the plaintiffs’ mortgage was first executed and delivered because it was first recorded, nor does the fact it avus first recorded tend to prove its prior execution andcdelivery.

The decree cannot be alloAved to stand. Except that the court (the District Court) in Avhich the cause was tried has gone out of existence, Ave might remand the cause Avith directions that the court below, upon the evidence already taken and such further relevant evidence as might be introduced, find the facts necessary to a proper determination. But this course is uoav apparently impracticable. A new trial seems necessary.

Judgment reversed and cause remanded for a neAV trial.